HARRIS TOWNSHIP

Planning Commission

Minutes – April 15, 2002 

7:00PM

 

REGULAR MEETING

 

 

Members Present:    Dan Duffy - Chairman, Bob Potter - Vice Chairman, Paul Weener, Lisa Berkey, Mary Ann Kresen, Ed Benner, Ron Buckalew.

 

Others Present:  Tom Miller, D.J. Liggett

 

 

A.     CALL TO ORDER

        Chairman Duffy called the meeting to order at 7:05 p.m.

 

B.    APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES

     Chairman Duffy announced that the minutes of the February 18, 2002 meeting would be approved during the May meeting.  There was no meeting in March.

 

C.    CITIZEN COMMENT

Chairman Duffy mentioned development of a scenic/historic highway resolution.  The purpose would be to preserve historic roads and is a result of the concern raised regarding widening Brush Valley Road.

 

Chairman Duffy asked Mr. Miller if this could be a topic for a future meeting.  Mr. Miller replied that it could be.  Mr. Miller said some residents would like to see that part of Brush Valley Road preserved as a scenic route, which would result in maintaining the road differently.  Mr. Miller stated it is a proactive step for the Township.

 

Mr. Miller stated that the number of trees that were being evaluated for removal by the engineer has decreased from eighty-seven (87) to eleven (11) trees.  The eleven (11) trees will be replaced and the Harris Township Tree Commission, in consultation with the Linden Hall Village Association, will select the species to replace the eleven (11) trees. 

 

Mr. Miller also stated that Mr. Yahner spoke of regeneration, sometimes stating that saplings get cut in the process of widening areas to be worked on and do not get replaced.  Mr. Miller stated staff would look at possible development of a maintenance program that would allow for the regeneration of the trees that are removed.

 

Mr. Miller asked the Planning Commission if they would be interested in looking at such a program, or if they wanted to defer it to the Tree Commission.

 

Mr. Buckalew asked if the Tree Commission normally reports back with suggestions.  Mr. Miller stated the Tree Commission reports directly to the Board of Supervisors there can be interaction, but it is not required.

 

Mr. Weener asked if the State had to be involved in designating a historic/scenic route.  Mr. Miller stated the staff is researching this.

 

Mr. Weener then asked if the policy would pertain to Township roads or if it could apply to State roads such as Linden Hall Road.  Mr. Miller replied it could be expanded into a zoning district designation or an overlay district, but that would depend on how it is developed.

 

Mr. Miller also stated that it might be possible to consider an overlay district where certain types of activities would be restricted.

 

Chairman Duffy asked if the policy could easily by translated into an Ordinance.  Mr. Miller stated it could.  He added that if the Planning Commission decided to do a Policy and Procedure for Maintenance only a Resolution would be needed.  If, however, the Township wanted the Policy to be enforceable, an Ordinance would need to be adopted.

 

Mr. Benner stated the idea was good, but questioned whether PennDOT had criteria for historic highways.  Mr. Miller stated that is being researched by staff. 

 

Mr. Weener stated the Planning Commission should be involved with the development of a resolution that would entail more than just trees, but also include scenic road value.

 

It was by consensus of Planning Commission members that staff should prepare documents for consideration, and then schedule these for discussion at a future meeting.

 

D.        PLANNING COMMISSION BUSINESS

 

1. LIGHTING ORDINANCE

Mr. Miller stated that the Board of Supervisors indicated they are not satisfied with certain aspects of the Ordinance and instances where there has been non-compliance to the Ordinance.

Mr. Miller also stated that the Zoning Officer had investigated reported concerns about the ordinance and found each instance to be in violation of the existing Ordinance.  He said staff is satisfied with the Ordinance as is and believes there is no need to change it.  The Ordinance is returned to the Planning Commission to determine if changes are needed.  If no changes are needed, the issue should be removed from further discussion.

Ms. Berkey stated she was not in favor of further discussion.

Ms. Kresen stated the Planning Commission spent a lot of time creating the Ordinance and unless there is a specific issue that needs attention, she did not favor continuing discussion.

Ms. Kresen moved to discontinue further discussion of this topic.

Mr. Weener stated that he believes the Lighting Ordinance is a "bad ordinance," not very enforceable, and is contradictory.

Ms. Kresen stated concern about being "over-regulatory".

Chairman Duffy stated there is a motion to recommend no additional changes be made to the Lighting Ordinance at this time. 

Upon motion made by Ms. Kresen and seconded by Ms. Berkey, the Planning Commission voted to refer the Lighting Ordinance to the Board of Supervisors with recommendation that the ordinance receive no further changes at this time; Ayes - 6; Nays - 1 (Mr. Weener).

    


2. OFF-STREET PARKING

Mr. Miller stated the Board of Supervisors sent this issue back to the Planning Commission because they were not sure the parking requirement for the agricultural and forest zoning districts need to be as stringent as they are in other zoning districts.

Mr. Miller stated that the Board of Supervisors seemed satisfied with the number of parking spaces identified for each use, but the issue is whether the parking lot should be paved and there were questions about whether bumper blocks were necessary or not.

Planning Commission members agreed that all off-street parking areas in the Agricultural and Forest zoning districts should be "mud-free", and stabilized.

Upon motion made by Mr. Weener, seconded by Mr. Benner, Planning Commission members moved to direct staff to create a draft ordinance requiring "mud-free" stabilized surface for all off-street parking in the Forest and Agriculture Zoning Districts; the draft shall contain a definition of "mud-free"; and further, there shall be no requirements for islands, trees, or bumper blocks for off-street parking in the Forest and Agriculture Zoning Districts.

By consensus, Planning Commission directed staff to prepare the ordinance document in accordance with the motion and forward it to the Board of Supervisors for adoption.

     3. URBAN SPRAWL

Mr. Weener asked how Growth Boundary is defined and asked what type of inter-connectivity the Planning Commission wanted to preserve/create for Open Space, i.e., bikeways, streams, roads, etc.

Mr. Benner asked if the Township should have a Local Comprehensive Plan in addition to the Regional Comprehensive Plan.

Mr. Weener asked how many ADT's would be generated by the proposal development of the former Springfield Mobile Home Park and how the local streets would accept this additional wear.

Mr. Weener suggested that Planning Commission members and staff begin by reviewing one property and it's interconnectivity with surrounding development including green areas, pedestrian walkways and links, etc.  It was suggested that the Harpster Farm property be the first to be analyzed.

Mr. Weener suggested that several other areas be added to this analysis, referring to the page entitled "Harris Township Major In-Fill Development Areas" distributed by Ms. Liggett. 

Mr. Weener requested the R-3, 10 acre, Torrey Lane property, R-2, 11 acre, Torrey Lane property; and R-2, 47 acre property "behind Country Place" be added to the R-1, 72 acre Harpster Farm evaluation. 

Planning Commission members agreed to the addition of these three properties.

 


E.     REPORTS:

 

Zoning Permits:

Mr. Miller stated that permits for February, March, and April would be circulated at the May20th meeting. 

 

CRPC:

Mr. Weener stated he attended the meeting.  Corey Miller, Executive Director of U.A.J.A. was present and discussed the Beneficial Reuse Project report and presented a time schedule for implementation.

 

Village District Study Committee: Vice-Chairman Potter reported the committee is using reports from 1988 and 1998 to guide the development of the current report.  The Committee discussed HARB and identified the need for a demolition ordinance.  They also discussed reducing the size of the Village.  Mr. Potter said the problem seems to be one of scale related to size of some businesses.

Ag Security Area:  D.J. Liggett stated there would be a public meeting Thursday in the Boalsburg Fire Hall at 7:30PM about 120 property owners will be invited to attend.

Mr. Potter indicated he had some confusion about the various Ag-Preservation programs and asked Ls. Liggett if Planning Commission members could receive an explanation of the various programs.

 

F.      ADJOURNMENT.

 

Upon motion made by Mr. Weener and seconded by Ms. Kresen, the Planning Commission moved to adjourn the meeting at 9:45PM; Ayes-7, Nays-0.

 

 

 

 

Respectfully Submitted,

 

 

 

 

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Thomas C. Miller, Secretary/Treasurer